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this is Jim semivan and you are

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hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO

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podcast my name is Andy and my guest

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today is one of the most well-known

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experiences of UFO unrelated phenomena

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on the planet his story is a complex one

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involving healing entities orbs and

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almost any aspect of the UFO phenomenon

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you could imagine I'd like to welcome to

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the podcast author of the book UFO of

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God Mr Chris bledso Chris welcome to the

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podcast thank you Andy I am honored to

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be here it's very good to have you

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you've been a guest that I've been after

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for some time as many people have for

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your time and a lot of listeners have

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wanted to hear from you

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um some listeners Chris might be a

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little bit less familiar with your story

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than others and before we get into the

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body of the interview could you

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summarize for us your initial experience

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as best you can that started you along

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the road to the UFO experiences you've

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had yes I'll do my best

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um

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in uh 2007 January the 8th of 07. is

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when it really

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um the main incident happened that was

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on the Cape Fear River the bank of the

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Cape Fear River

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in North Carolina eastern North Carolina

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we're about 60 miles by air from the

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coast and the river empties into the

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Atlantic Ocean so we were Upstream about

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to kind of understand in those days the

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military the Navy out of Norfolk and

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wherever they're from were patrolling up

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and down the North and South Carolina

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coast

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and that's when they were really seeing

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this what they called the Tic Tac right

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I just had to throw that in there so you

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can understand why they took so much

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interest in me the government at right

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so their pilots were seeing it and it

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was playing cat and mouse with them and

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uh they just could witness it right

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but on that night

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it's a long story and the book gets into

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I was I was at the end of my rope I felt

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that so strongly because

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the the financial crisis in 2007

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uh just really put an end to my building

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career it started when 9-1-1 happened

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when they destroyed the World Trade

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Center whoever did it

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for whatever reason it destroyed the

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market in in Fayetteville where I live

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and that's the home of Fort Bragg so you

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can imagine it's a mostly a VA town

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and and everybody would just quit buying

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homes and I had 72 houses under

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construction and

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interest rates were eight percent in

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those days on on uh commercial money

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which is absolutely unfair to where it

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is today it's only a couple one or two

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that was the Beast and

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I was afflicted with crohn's disease it

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started out you know minor and it grew

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into a monster the worse I worried the

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the worse it got and um

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so by 2005 I had suffered a near-death

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experience from this and it said there's

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a lot of detail in the book about that

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and it wasn't my fault it was

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that I was basically poisoned by

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um toxic poisoning from the medication

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they had me on

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here I am at 46 years old with four

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home with a pool in the back and 20

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years of business experience and now I'm

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starting over again but I'm sick and I

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couldn't work it was just so

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debilitating so I'm on my son Chris Jr

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he was 17 the oldest boy

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and three guys that worked for my dad

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uh had just finished a project and they

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wanted to go celebrate fishing that day

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and without getting too many details I

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wasn't into fishing I was I was reaching

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out to the heavens somebody help me

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whoever's up there

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I was born and raised the Baptist I

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married a Pentecostal Holiness girl

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and I had uh you know praying hard I had

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been for weeks and I felt like that was

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falling on silent ears like you know

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it's just the way the nature of it

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but for that night that evening about 10

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after five I walked across I walked away

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from the group my son and his these

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I left them fishing on the bank it was

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it was in January the sun sets early you

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know 5 30 the sun's down behind the

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the way we came in so if you can imagine

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a a paved Road and you look to your left

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and there's a 200 yard field cornfield

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Woodline well you cross that field you

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get to the trees and you go down a path

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to the field I told them I was going to

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go look for wildlife deer or turkey but

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crying out and

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um as I got near the top of that hill to

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where I could see the field

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I saw what looked like the sun setting

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that tangerine orange color

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steps and I got a little higher up on

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the hill and there's two of them and

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that's when I immediately dropped down

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hill the top of the hill you know and

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what I was seeing

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nothing from the military base or

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anywhere known

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and I became curious and I wanted to see

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it I wanted to see it bad but fear set

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Reeds we call them which is uh

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swampland grass they call it it's like

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cane River cane so I was hiding thinking

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I was hiding right I was I was down in

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this stuff and I peep up over the hill

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and I'd go oh my Lord what is that and

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finally fear got so much to me that I I

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said to myself I've got to run I'm going

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down that Hill back to my child that's

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decision to run I had to look back one

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more time and I raised up and I'm going

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to run and when I look suddenly a third

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here's a third one appears

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beside the other two so now I got three

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of these huge 50-foot round Balls of

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was swirling and Flames were shooting

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and so I've got three setting Sons well

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that description alone got the attention

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of those who study Fatima

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that that I just had to throw that in

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so I took off running and when I got

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four hours had passed and I only thought

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that crew had been looking me all night

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my son had gone looking for me he was

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missing I had to go on a hunt for him

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and when I found him and got him back to

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um suddenly this guy became alive with

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stars that looked just like Venus or the

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brightest star you'd see in the sky uh

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just started coming from different

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directions and they came together in a

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circle and they went around like they

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were just choreographed they went back

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out from one another and they came back

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together and three of them landed in

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front of us 75 yards away which was the

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and pandemonium set in and we flew up

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out of there with my truck uh best we

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could got up the hill and got uh those

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three that were up the hill that the one

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glowing white brilliant light sitting in

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because they were chasing that thing

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around the Atlantic Ocean for two or

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three years of four I think is when it

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immediately it went straight to the CIA

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and they told me this and they said

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he's describing the Tic Tac now here

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they've been seeing it but here's a guy

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that is just England from the Atlantic

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Ocean on that River they knew it was up

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and down that area

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but now there's a guy been taken from it

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so buy it

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so that's what started it all that's

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um began a 15-year process of me

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working with different intelligence

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the NASA to the the CIA to the National

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reconnaissance office even to the

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ministry of British Ministry of Defense

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people have contacted me and the

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Australian DOD the DIA

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the dod just a whole you can't imagine

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how many people have uh worked with us

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and studied this thing

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yeah and as someone like myself who's

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very familiar the list is extensive of

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officials who have reached out and will

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touch on some others no doubt as we

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discuss thank you for sharing the story

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and summarizing it it's a fascinating

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story and I think it would take up a

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couple of hours worth of the podcast if

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we were into details so apology to those

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who haven't heard the full thing but you

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will read more of it in the book or hear

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it in previous interviews I just want to

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a religious man how do you process what

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you're seeing do your thoughts go to the

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they connect prayer and the reaching out

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for help to these events as something

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spiritual or do you not connect them

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straight away as this is something

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you've said straight away you don't you

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didn't get the feeling they were from

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the military base so you're telling me

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you didn't get the feeling these were

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human entities straight away so what are

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you thinking in the moment

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well from the very beginning

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uh and this is in the book

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uh and there's so much in this book that

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I've never revealed over 16 years and

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I've been quiet for the most part not

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public because that was just what I was

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doing that to be involved with

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government agencies we just didn't talk

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about it you know but now we are but

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from the very beginning the very day I

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reported this to move on

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I told them I thought they were angels

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because of my extensive knowledge of the

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book The Bible and studying it and you

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know they had these fiery chariots you

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hear them talking about in the Bible

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and to me I didn't see a flying saucer I

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saw a fire balls of fire and what nailed

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it was the Crohn's disease the suffering

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from that from going to the restroom 20

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times a day

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debilitating illness to immediately it

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was gone I had no more symptoms ever

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since then of that disease I took

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medication 17 and a half years

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and now I'm free but here's the problem

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I come home to tell my family and the

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community how beautiful this experience

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was what happened

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and you would have thought that I had

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gotten in bed with the devil because the

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church ostracized me my family friends

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and neighbors and community did

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and

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beginning it was not dark or Sinister

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why else would they come

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you know why would they help me and so

321
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that's that's been from the various

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onset of course I don't know Andy I

323
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can't um I don't want to influence

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anybody's thought on what this is or

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isn't

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I just simply wrote a story that

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um that would tell you what's happened

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over 16 years

329
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and of course early on in my life

330
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because there's a lot of things that's

331
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happened to me

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from being gunshot I was shot in the

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back of 10 years old from six foot away

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with a shotgun

335
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350 pellets right in my back right in

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line with my heart and something stopped

337
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it

338
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I have led all around in here

339
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and I even when I go to TSA they pat me

340
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down because the electronic machine

341
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finds it

342
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and um so yeah there's so much

343
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um

344
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stuff in this book that uh

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that actually if you read it

346
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I think you can help develop an idea of

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what has happened

348
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and what it might be that's that's I

349
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don't want to label it I just want the

350
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reader to decide from themselves

351
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no one that's that's very fair and I

352
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think that comes across in the book as

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well and all the while as still your

354
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story and your story to tell and you've

355
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got to be be true to that and for anyone

356
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who's unsure of Crohn's Disease I've got

357
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a few friends with it and it's not a

358
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nice illness or disease at all and even

359
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at the best of times can be very

360
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difficult to manage and live a daily

361
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normal life you know School runs work

362
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you know any social activities it can be

363
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horrible so that doesn't just clear up

364
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with it with a short notice like that at

365
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all does it

366
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um I want to ask Chris you've said in an

367
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interview recently touching on you feel

368
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these entities these Balls of Fire where

369
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we're spiritual and benevolent and with

370
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Jimmy Church on Fade to Black When you

371
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mention that you also added you said you

372
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felt they were spiritual and benevolent

373
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to you

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what are your thoughts on the

375
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experiences of others such as Jim

376
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semivan who wrote the forward to your

377
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book and he's been on the podcast or or

378
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Whitley Street bar and they claim far

379
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more unpleasant or unsettling

380
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experiences with similar types of

381
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entities right do you feel these

382
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entities are connected why do you think

383
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people have such a strange you know

384
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difference in how these interact with

385
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them well I think for the most part

386
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these people you're talking about and

387
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Jim I just love Jim he's a great friend

388
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of this family

389
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uh and he even recently

390
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spoke about he believed that there was a

391
00:17:01,850 --> 00:16:58,620
guardian aspect to it

392
00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:01,860
um I really think that a one time you

393
00:17:07,970 --> 00:17:05,520
experience something maybe twice over 30

394
00:17:10,250 --> 00:17:07,980
or 35 years you don't have enough

395
00:17:11,929 --> 00:17:10,260
information to understand

396
00:17:17,449 --> 00:17:11,939
the difference here

397
00:17:21,169 --> 00:17:17,459
is I I interact with it every single day

398
00:17:24,350 --> 00:17:21,179
just about of my life if I go outside

399
00:17:26,809 --> 00:17:24,360
here they come and I document it with

400
00:17:30,530 --> 00:17:26,819
film and with Witnesses and with camera

401
00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:30,540
I have over 2 000 videos on my cell

402
00:17:34,490 --> 00:17:33,540
phone taken by night vision or cell

403
00:17:37,250 --> 00:17:34,500
phone

404
00:17:39,890 --> 00:17:37,260
in the last year and a half alone

405
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and many many many witnesses and people

406
00:17:46,130 --> 00:17:42,960
who have been healed from Cancers and

407
00:17:47,870 --> 00:17:46,140
other things that have experienced this

408
00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:47,880
wonderful thing if they were going to

409
00:17:52,430 --> 00:17:49,679
eat me they would have done it many

410
00:17:54,250 --> 00:17:52,440
years ago instead

411
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um

412
00:18:01,909 --> 00:17:59,580
History Channel series coming out a

413
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brand new one I can't say what it is

414
00:18:07,130 --> 00:18:04,860
because I'm not allowed to

415
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but they're featuring

416
00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:09,780
um myself and three of my children

417
00:18:16,029 --> 00:18:13,200
in in part of this thing and I believe

418
00:18:19,669 --> 00:18:16,039
it's going to be a huge

419
00:18:21,230 --> 00:18:19,679
huge eye-opener for everyone that sees

420
00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:21,240
it because

421
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we actually I can't really say anymore I

422
00:18:28,430 --> 00:18:26,220
just said it's a must-watch for anybody

423
00:18:30,409 --> 00:18:28,440
enthused about this subject they should

424
00:18:33,230 --> 00:18:30,419
watch it read the book

425
00:18:34,970 --> 00:18:33,240
and watch this and you'll learn you'll

426
00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:34,980
get a better idea of what it is I

427
00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:37,200
believe well I was going to ask this

428
00:18:41,330 --> 00:18:39,360
question a little bit later and I

429
00:18:43,250 --> 00:18:41,340
interviewed Ryan your son your Ryan

430
00:18:45,169 --> 00:18:43,260
Bledsoe for those who don't know he also

431
00:18:46,909 --> 00:18:45,179
has his own podcast Bledsoe said so if

432
00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:46,919
people haven't checked that out yet

433
00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:48,720
um Ryan was fantastic with me and

434
00:18:52,970 --> 00:18:51,240
answered all my questions and I asked

435
00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:52,980
him a similar one when he came on the

436
00:18:57,710 --> 00:18:55,440
podcast and I'll ask you now shows like

437
00:18:59,810 --> 00:18:57,720
the secret of Skinwalker Ranch or a big

438
00:19:01,549 --> 00:18:59,820
hit on the History Channel

439
00:19:03,409 --> 00:19:01,559
um and they have a sizable audience and

440
00:19:05,930 --> 00:19:03,419
what they're doing is exposing uh

441
00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:05,940
scientific investigation of the

442
00:19:09,350 --> 00:19:07,679
phenomenon including UFOs to a

443
00:19:10,789 --> 00:19:09,360
mainstream audience

444
00:19:11,870 --> 00:19:10,799
um you've mentioned the show that's

445
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going to be coming out in the summer

446
00:19:17,510 --> 00:19:14,760
will feature your family in part in some

447
00:19:20,350 --> 00:19:17,520
way would you consider allowing cameras

448
00:19:23,390 --> 00:19:20,360
onto your property on a prolonged basis

449
00:19:25,610 --> 00:19:23,400
say for several months to film a

450
00:19:26,450 --> 00:19:25,620
documentary or an episodic show like

451
00:19:29,570 --> 00:19:26,460
that

452
00:19:31,850 --> 00:19:29,580
well you won't need them for about a day

453
00:19:33,049 --> 00:19:31,860
you don't need them for much when they

454
00:19:35,930 --> 00:19:33,059
come here

455
00:19:38,510 --> 00:19:35,940
let's just say there were there were 15

456
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:38,520
people here

457
00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:42,960
um on a team a month ago and um

458
00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:45,600
we filmed for six nights and the very

459
00:19:52,490 --> 00:19:49,440
first night they pulled the camera out

460
00:19:55,789 --> 00:19:52,500
um there were 35 objects set up there

461
00:19:58,130 --> 00:19:55,799
and summoned the trees next to us and

462
00:20:02,570 --> 00:19:58,140
with the latest artificial intelligence

463
00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:02,580
machines it rang them all true UFOs or

464
00:20:07,669 --> 00:20:05,280
unknown so it's not like you need to

465
00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:07,679
leave a camera on a pole it's not

466
00:20:13,250 --> 00:20:09,840
connected to the land it's connected

467
00:20:15,650 --> 00:20:13,260
straight to my Consciousness or

468
00:20:19,549 --> 00:20:15,660
or thoughts you know it was conscience

469
00:20:22,490 --> 00:20:19,559
based and yeah I mean if you were to

470
00:20:24,650 --> 00:20:22,500
come here tonight you and I you would

471
00:20:28,430 --> 00:20:24,660
get a witness it

472
00:20:30,830 --> 00:20:28,440
right away it wouldn't be no doubts left

473
00:20:33,049 --> 00:20:30,840
when you leave from here

474
00:20:34,130 --> 00:20:33,059
and I'm saying that out of confidence

475
00:20:36,529 --> 00:20:34,140
because

476
00:20:39,529 --> 00:20:36,539
it's totally up to the phenomenon if it

477
00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:39,539
shows or not all I can do is ask

478
00:20:46,210 --> 00:20:42,000
but very often when I walk out like two

479
00:20:49,250 --> 00:20:46,220
nights ago last night it was cloudy but

480
00:20:51,610 --> 00:20:49,260
the night before I walk outside and as

481
00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:51,620
soon as I open the door here they come

482
00:20:56,210 --> 00:20:54,240
flashing and flashing and different

483
00:20:58,610 --> 00:20:56,220
parts of this guy and they just converge

484
00:21:00,529 --> 00:20:58,620
it's like they're waiting for me

485
00:21:02,810 --> 00:21:00,539
and this is why the government's been so

486
00:21:04,610 --> 00:21:02,820
hot and heavy on my Hills for 15 years

487
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:04,620
because they know it they've seen it

488
00:21:09,950 --> 00:21:06,960
they've witnessed it they've filmed it

489
00:21:12,529 --> 00:21:09,960
they've investigated it and it's ongoing

490
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:12,539
it's just it's grown exponentially

491
00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:15,840
greater now than ever has been

492
00:21:20,570 --> 00:21:18,120
have you ever had other individuals

493
00:21:23,169 --> 00:21:20,580
either from the United States or further

494
00:21:26,510 --> 00:21:23,179
afield reach out to you with their own

495
00:21:30,409 --> 00:21:26,520
similar consistent prolonged experiences

496
00:21:32,210 --> 00:21:30,419
like you have had and never really have

497
00:21:34,190 --> 00:21:32,220
I've had a lot of people reach out to

498
00:21:36,289 --> 00:21:34,200
say they've seen things or

499
00:21:39,770 --> 00:21:36,299
but they're curious to what happened to

500
00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:39,780
them but one thing I'll say

501
00:21:44,810 --> 00:21:43,200
is when this first happened in 07 the

502
00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:44,820
very first people to knock on my door

503
00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:47,760
was NASA scientists I mean they drove

504
00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:50,400
from Cape Canaveral Florida 13 hours to

505
00:21:56,570 --> 00:21:54,000
my house I was at home and Ryan you know

506
00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:56,580
Ryan he answered the door and it was a

507
00:22:02,210 --> 00:21:59,520
six foot five huge guy standing there

508
00:22:04,190 --> 00:22:02,220
and he said is your dad home or does

509
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:04,200
Chris Bledsoe live here he said yeah he

510
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:07,679
lives here he said I'm from NASA can I

511
00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:10,080
meet your dad Ryan calls me on the phone

512
00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,080
yeah some huge guys here from NASA you

513
00:22:17,810 --> 00:22:15,600
know Ryan's like 12 13 years old

514
00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:17,820
and I said well if he wants to see me

515
00:22:20,330 --> 00:22:19,440
tell him to hang around I'll be home in

516
00:22:22,730 --> 00:22:20,340
an hour

517
00:22:25,490 --> 00:22:22,740
and when I got there

518
00:22:28,610 --> 00:22:25,500
um that started a relationship

519
00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:28,620
that my children over 11 years until he

520
00:22:34,909 --> 00:22:32,880
died he was with NASA in 1956 before it

521
00:22:39,230 --> 00:22:34,919
was NASA worked with one of them Brown

522
00:22:41,570 --> 00:22:39,240
his three phds brilliant rocket

523
00:22:43,130 --> 00:22:41,580
scientist astrophysicist all this

524
00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:43,140
combined

525
00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:45,360
and um

526
00:22:50,330 --> 00:22:47,700
yeah he went to my daughter's College

527
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:50,340
graduations I mean he would drive all

528
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:52,799
the way down he and his wife in fact my

529
00:22:57,890 --> 00:22:54,480
daughter's going to Florida next week

530
00:23:00,289 --> 00:22:57,900
and she's going to stay with Katie is is

531
00:23:03,490 --> 00:23:00,299
with a

532
00:23:05,810 --> 00:23:03,500
um but yeah it's just

533
00:23:08,029 --> 00:23:05,820
you know I kind of got sidetracked there

534
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:08,039
so no no that's okay I want to follow on

535
00:23:11,149 --> 00:23:09,600
that because obviously with throughout

536
00:23:13,730 --> 00:23:11,159
the book you mentioned many of these

537
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:13,740
individuals some are named and at times

538
00:23:17,870 --> 00:23:15,840
I understand in the past and going

539
00:23:19,850 --> 00:23:17,880
forward you can't name other people and

540
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:19,860
you would just say officials from such

541
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:22,559
and such organization but I wonder are

542
00:23:27,470 --> 00:23:24,960
they coming to you in an official

543
00:23:29,390 --> 00:23:27,480
capacity all the time or do you have

544
00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:29,400
people for example coming from NASA

545
00:23:34,730 --> 00:23:31,440
where it's more of a personal interest

546
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:34,740
and there's no official involvement

547
00:23:39,470 --> 00:23:36,960
well I'm sure there's some of that for

548
00:23:40,850 --> 00:23:39,480
sure but this is straight up government

549
00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:40,860
people

550
00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:41,520
um

551
00:23:48,049 --> 00:23:45,000
I mean I have my manager's federal

552
00:23:52,010 --> 00:23:48,059
government if that says anything yeah

553
00:23:53,090 --> 00:23:52,020
and um yeah it's always been a great

554
00:23:55,789 --> 00:23:53,100
thing

555
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:55,799
let's just say this when when the

556
00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:58,080
community turned on me and the schools

557
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:01,200
were picking on my children and in The

558
00:24:07,850 --> 00:24:03,840
Darkest Hours it was these individuals

559
00:24:10,610 --> 00:24:07,860
that came and made the most sense and

560
00:24:13,010 --> 00:24:10,620
went about telling my family my mother

561
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:13,020
and Dad pulled out these credentials

562
00:24:18,590 --> 00:24:15,360
from NASA and said you need to believe

563
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:18,600
your son he's telling you the truth

564
00:24:23,090 --> 00:24:20,880
they didn't have to do that but they did

565
00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:23,100
and they brought about

566
00:24:27,770 --> 00:24:26,100
um they brought her about sense to us to

567
00:24:31,250 --> 00:24:27,780
my children they were getting picked on

568
00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:31,260
at school made fun of laughed your dad's

569
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:33,600
crazy in the hallway they'd come my

570
00:24:39,470 --> 00:24:35,760
little girl come home with tears

571
00:24:41,149 --> 00:24:39,480
and in 2016 Jim Simi van drove from DC

572
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:41,159
he and Debbie

573
00:24:48,169 --> 00:24:44,159
to celebrate my birthday party uh

574
00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:48,179
birthday in October 15th of 2016.

575
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:52,559
and um my middle son Jeremy

576
00:24:58,010 --> 00:24:55,440
he was at the tender age of 15 when this

577
00:25:00,409 --> 00:24:58,020
happened and he took it the worst and he

578
00:25:02,990 --> 00:25:00,419
was interested in girls and all this and

579
00:25:04,909 --> 00:25:03,000
all this laughter at school it nearly

580
00:25:07,130 --> 00:25:04,919
run this child

581
00:25:09,529 --> 00:25:07,140
and he went to college and didn't want

582
00:25:12,590 --> 00:25:09,539
to come home he wanted to hide from it

583
00:25:14,510 --> 00:25:12,600
all to try to to run from it to have

584
00:25:16,850 --> 00:25:14,520
somewhat of a normal life and Jim

585
00:25:19,730 --> 00:25:16,860
grabbed him and said Jeremy why are you

586
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:19,740
avoiding your father what what what's

587
00:25:25,490 --> 00:25:21,120
going on

588
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:25,500
and it wasn't long before he said uh he

589
00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:27,840
said we're going to have a fire in the

590
00:25:32,750 --> 00:25:30,539
backyard at your house tonight told all

591
00:25:35,330 --> 00:25:32,760
my kids he said invite everybody that

592
00:25:38,269 --> 00:25:35,340
ever doubted you get him there tonight

593
00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:38,279
and there was a whole a whole crowd of

594
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:40,799
young people that come to the house and

595
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:43,200
I just walked away to let him have his

596
00:25:48,890 --> 00:25:46,320
time but he when he got through my

597
00:25:52,909 --> 00:25:48,900
children felt Mighty special because he

598
00:25:56,690 --> 00:25:52,919
told them all you have no idea how

599
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:56,700
what level of people are behind your

600
00:26:01,130 --> 00:25:57,840
father

601
00:26:04,370 --> 00:26:01,140
and know about this and support him so

602
00:26:05,950 --> 00:26:04,380
that's been my experience with officials

603
00:26:08,810 --> 00:26:05,960
from the government the very personal

604
00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:08,820
for the most part

605
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:12,720
let me ask why do you feel there's such

606
00:26:18,289 --> 00:26:15,840
an intense interest in you particularly

607
00:26:21,409 --> 00:26:18,299
because again there are so many out

608
00:26:24,289 --> 00:26:21,419
there famous people with abduction

609
00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:24,299
stories experience or stories Calvin

610
00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:26,640
Parker Whitley Street bar to name a few

611
00:26:33,890 --> 00:26:30,000
but you seem to have had such an intense

612
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:33,900
piling on of official dumb and

613
00:26:40,130 --> 00:26:37,679
everything that came with that why you

614
00:26:42,049 --> 00:26:40,140
well because I walk outside and here it

615
00:26:44,210 --> 00:26:42,059
comes and they can see it

616
00:26:46,430 --> 00:26:44,220
a lot of people talk about it but they

617
00:26:49,010 --> 00:26:46,440
have no proof of it no I'm not one photo

618
00:26:52,730 --> 00:26:49,020
not one video they have great big

619
00:26:54,909 --> 00:26:52,740
stories but there's really no evidence

620
00:26:57,710 --> 00:26:54,919
there well here

621
00:27:00,049 --> 00:26:57,720
they can come and they can pull out

622
00:27:02,690 --> 00:27:00,059
their machines and their artificial

623
00:27:05,330 --> 00:27:02,700
intelligence machines and their sensors

624
00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:05,340
we were in the Monroe Institute last

625
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:08,159
summer in June

626
00:27:13,789 --> 00:27:10,880
um and it's in the book the last chapter

627
00:27:15,789 --> 00:27:13,799
and there were 24 of us mostly

628
00:27:21,130 --> 00:27:15,799
scientists

629
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:21,140
to film The phenomena

630
00:27:26,350 --> 00:27:23,520
and so

631
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:26,360
um they wired me up with all kinds of

632
00:27:31,490 --> 00:27:29,520
brain scan machine I defeated two of

633
00:27:34,430 --> 00:27:31,500
their machines their best machines would

634
00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:34,440
not work with me blew them away it's in

635
00:27:38,210 --> 00:27:35,520
the book

636
00:27:41,330 --> 00:27:38,220
but the phenomena just appeared I walk

637
00:27:44,210 --> 00:27:41,340
out and I drove my hands up and I do

638
00:27:46,370 --> 00:27:44,220
what I do I don't project it out loud

639
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:46,380
unless I'm by myself

640
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,440
but when I asked immediately flash here

641
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:51,360
goes a flash over the mountain and it

642
00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:53,760
just starts right at us flashing it went

643
00:27:58,130 --> 00:27:55,200
right over our head

644
00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:58,140
and everybody's oh my God you know all

645
00:28:03,649 --> 00:28:00,960
these people there the Monroe people

646
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:03,659
and that happened four nights in a row

647
00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:06,480
it wasn't like I had to beg for it to

648
00:28:11,149 --> 00:28:09,480
come this is this is the difference you

649
00:28:12,529 --> 00:28:11,159
know they want to see it they can see it

650
00:28:15,169 --> 00:28:12,539
here

651
00:28:17,149 --> 00:28:15,179
and Chris I've seen personally many of

652
00:28:19,850 --> 00:28:17,159
the images you've posted online on

653
00:28:22,010 --> 00:28:19,860
Facebook or the videos you've posted is

654
00:28:24,649 --> 00:28:22,020
there ever any evidence you've taken

655
00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:24,659
that for whatever reason you haven't

656
00:28:29,450 --> 00:28:26,760
published to the public either you were

657
00:28:30,830 --> 00:28:29,460
told not to or it was it was maybe too

658
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:30,840
much

659
00:28:35,690 --> 00:28:33,120
well yeah I have quite a bit I've never

660
00:28:37,490 --> 00:28:35,700
posted I've probably posted 50 out of

661
00:28:40,190 --> 00:28:37,500
2000 videos

662
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:40,200
let's just say I have one

663
00:28:45,950 --> 00:28:43,679
that I'm just starting to talk about it

664
00:28:47,330 --> 00:28:45,960
um nobody's seen this but government

665
00:28:48,769 --> 00:28:47,340
officials

666
00:28:50,810 --> 00:28:48,779
and

667
00:28:53,149 --> 00:28:50,820
um my immediate family

668
00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:53,159
and a couple people from Hollywood uh

669
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:55,140
just showed it to him and that was it

670
00:29:01,250 --> 00:28:57,600
but last Easter

671
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:01,260
when I was deciding to write this book I

672
00:29:06,110 --> 00:29:02,640
had an offer

673
00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:06,120
uh my best friend and Manager David you

674
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:10,080
met David he he was uh encouraging me

675
00:29:13,610 --> 00:29:11,760
you got to write this book you got to

676
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:13,620
leave you know the world needs to hear

677
00:29:17,450 --> 00:29:15,600
about this you've got to do it and I

678
00:29:20,210 --> 00:29:17,460
wasn't into it I've been suffering from

679
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:20,220
rheumatoid arthritis and

680
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:23,760
started getting better and anyhow Dave

681
00:29:31,070 --> 00:29:27,120
is pretty persistent and he won me over

682
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:31,080
and at Easter he proposed

683
00:29:37,450 --> 00:29:34,559
this to help me with the story to help

684
00:29:40,370 --> 00:29:37,460
me all the way through it to get it

685
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,380
published if I would write it in which I

686
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:42,480
did I wrote it

687
00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:43,679
um

688
00:29:48,889 --> 00:29:46,260
you know a lot more than we published

689
00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:48,899
because we just had we had a window we

690
00:29:54,649 --> 00:29:52,320
could only do 90 000 words

691
00:29:57,769 --> 00:29:54,659
um because you get books too thick they

692
00:30:01,610 --> 00:29:57,779
don't sell as well and and some of that

693
00:30:03,889 --> 00:30:01,620
was just not needed to be out it would

694
00:30:09,230 --> 00:30:03,899
we got what we needed

695
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:09,240
but um it was Easter of 2021 Friday

696
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:11,279
night Good Friday

697
00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:13,919
which is a special day I don't care

698
00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:17,039
every Farmer in the world knows that

699
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:19,260
Easter Friday Good Friday

700
00:30:25,370 --> 00:30:22,080
is a special day for planting

701
00:30:27,649 --> 00:30:25,380
you plant corn on Friday and it'll Bloom

702
00:30:30,110 --> 00:30:27,659
that you planted on Monday it will

703
00:30:34,610 --> 00:30:30,120
probably fail you get your best crops

704
00:30:36,649 --> 00:30:34,620
that time of year it's it's just an old

705
00:30:39,649 --> 00:30:36,659
thing but long story short I'm standing

706
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,659
there by myself you know 10 feet from

707
00:30:43,250 --> 00:30:41,279
where I'm recording this is my little

708
00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:43,260
workshop

709
00:30:49,310 --> 00:30:47,220
and we live on 15 Acres with a pond a

710
00:30:51,649 --> 00:30:49,320
little cabin sitting on the ponds very

711
00:30:57,169 --> 00:30:54,529
and I just look up at the sky and I said

712
00:31:00,130 --> 00:30:57,179
is this what you want me to do should I

713
00:31:02,990 --> 00:31:00,140
do this should I write this book

714
00:31:05,149 --> 00:31:03,000
and I really didn't know I I always

715
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:05,159
reach out to the Heavens For answers and

716
00:31:10,930 --> 00:31:08,159
I did and as soon as I did

717
00:31:14,090 --> 00:31:10,940
uh this orb appears over my palm

718
00:31:16,430 --> 00:31:14,100
immediately I mean it didn't wait when I

719
00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:16,440
finished saying what I had to say

720
00:31:21,950 --> 00:31:19,320
uh questioning the phenomenon should I

721
00:31:25,130 --> 00:31:21,960
do this and it appeared instantly

722
00:31:27,230 --> 00:31:25,140
but here's what was really cool

723
00:31:29,690 --> 00:31:27,240
as I'm

724
00:31:32,510 --> 00:31:29,700
Take My Little Sirens cameras hanging on

725
00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:32,520
my neck riding a little lanyard and it's

726
00:31:37,310 --> 00:31:34,799
only four inches five inches long and

727
00:31:40,370 --> 00:31:37,320
about a big it's a binocular night

728
00:31:42,169 --> 00:31:40,380
vision so color night vision low

729
00:31:44,269 --> 00:31:42,179
resolution

730
00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:44,279
it was the greatest technology they had

731
00:31:49,549 --> 00:31:46,980
when when it came out

732
00:31:51,710 --> 00:31:49,559
that company so I throw the camera up

733
00:31:54,289 --> 00:31:51,720
and I've got it on this orb and I'm just

734
00:31:56,450 --> 00:31:54,299
knowing that that was the answer I was

735
00:31:58,130 --> 00:31:56,460
looking for because we talk I ask

736
00:32:00,769 --> 00:31:58,140
questions they answer me right away

737
00:32:01,970 --> 00:32:00,779
usually I mean it's not like a delay it

738
00:32:03,950 --> 00:32:01,980
happens

739
00:32:06,169 --> 00:32:03,960
there's a connection here that most

740
00:32:08,090 --> 00:32:06,179
people can't imagine that's what I say

741
00:32:10,010 --> 00:32:08,100
on the History Channel you might get to

742
00:32:13,070 --> 00:32:10,020
see that

743
00:32:14,450 --> 00:32:13,080
but as soon as I started filming this

744
00:32:17,510 --> 00:32:14,460
orb

745
00:32:19,370 --> 00:32:17,520
I look you know I instead of holding it

746
00:32:21,169 --> 00:32:19,380
to my eye get it on and I just hold the

747
00:32:23,330 --> 00:32:21,179
camera there and I'm looking around for

748
00:32:26,830 --> 00:32:23,340
more that might appear and as soon as I

749
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:26,840
did that up Beyond this orb

750
00:32:34,250 --> 00:32:30,720
way up in the heavens you know where the

751
00:32:36,409 --> 00:32:34,260
the stars are I see something coming

752
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:36,419
and it's coming towards me and it's

753
00:32:40,610 --> 00:32:38,399
coming from way high and it's coming

754
00:32:43,610 --> 00:32:40,620
down as it gets closer

755
00:32:45,169 --> 00:32:43,620
you hear me on the video say what is

756
00:32:46,850 --> 00:32:45,179
that

757
00:32:49,010 --> 00:32:46,860
planet's day

758
00:32:50,750 --> 00:32:49,020
I filmed the whole thing and as it

759
00:32:53,149 --> 00:32:50,760
starts getting closer it's glowing

760
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:53,159
orange red

761
00:32:57,889 --> 00:32:55,679
it's really glowing

762
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:57,899
and suddenly

763
00:33:02,210 --> 00:33:00,720
um it gets close enough I see these huge

764
00:33:04,610 --> 00:33:02,220
wings

765
00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:04,620
and they start doing this and this thing

766
00:33:11,450 --> 00:33:06,120
as big as uh

767
00:33:14,269 --> 00:33:11,460
uh said citation 5 jet or 737.

768
00:33:16,970 --> 00:33:14,279
it's not little it's huge and it's got

769
00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:16,980
wings that are flapping and it's glowing

770
00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:19,320
orange and it comes right down and comes

771
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:21,720
over my head it's pretty high up but it

772
00:33:26,450 --> 00:33:24,000
levels out flies over my head and it

773
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:26,460
changes to glowing White

774
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:30,240
and it makes it turn 90 degree turn big

775
00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:33,120
huge wings that the tips sweep forward

776
00:33:37,370 --> 00:33:34,980
like so

777
00:33:39,169 --> 00:33:37,380
and it makes a turn to the South and it

778
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:39,179
flies out of sight

779
00:33:44,930 --> 00:33:42,000
and I would say I got the answer I was

780
00:33:46,970 --> 00:33:44,940
looking for I agreed to make this book

781
00:33:49,549 --> 00:33:46,980
and here we are today

782
00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:49,559
and that was last April

783
00:33:53,450 --> 00:33:51,600
and that was um

784
00:33:55,789 --> 00:33:53,460
that's uh

785
00:33:58,970 --> 00:33:55,799
I haven't never shared that and I have a

786
00:34:02,810 --> 00:33:58,980
lot of other things entities walking

787
00:34:04,549 --> 00:34:02,820
uh entities coming out of orbs orbs four

788
00:34:06,529 --> 00:34:04,559
or five feet away

789
00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:06,539
I posted one on Instagram last night

790
00:34:11,409 --> 00:34:08,399
that was 20 feet away there were two of

791
00:34:13,970 --> 00:34:11,419
them right beside me

792
00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:13,980
yeah plain to see

793
00:34:17,149 --> 00:34:16,020
have you ever felt deceived by the

794
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:17,159
phenomenon

795
00:34:22,849 --> 00:34:20,639
no no none whatsoever

796
00:34:24,290 --> 00:34:22,859
and what about the officials who have

797
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:24,300
been involved and obviously that's a

798
00:34:28,369 --> 00:34:26,159
much more human element to this the the

799
00:34:30,649 --> 00:34:28,379
other side of your experiences the human

800
00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:30,659
element have you ever felt deceived by

801
00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:32,879
any of those

802
00:34:39,050 --> 00:34:36,780
um not from the officials I have

803
00:34:40,970 --> 00:34:39,060
um in fact we've changed their lives

804
00:34:43,849 --> 00:34:40,980
there's a story in the book about a

805
00:34:45,889 --> 00:34:43,859
scientist from Virginia Tech's Hume

806
00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:45,899
Center for National technology

807
00:34:50,889 --> 00:34:48,960
and he retires you know ordinarily these

808
00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:50,899
guys uh

809
00:34:55,070 --> 00:34:53,220
they'll wait till they retire to they

810
00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:55,080
get involved in this subject they just

811
00:34:58,490 --> 00:34:56,520
can't do it while they're working but he

812
00:35:00,050 --> 00:34:58,500
was all about trying to come here and

813
00:35:02,270 --> 00:35:00,060
see it and he did

814
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:02,280
and the first night we walked out within

815
00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:04,320
five minutes here the orbs come

816
00:35:09,710 --> 00:35:07,260
and they were over my head just above me

817
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:09,720
flashing on and off right over my head

818
00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:12,960
in this purple Aura appeared and anyhow

819
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:15,180
it I told him I said Bob it's going to

820
00:35:18,890 --> 00:35:16,800
go home with you you're going to see it

821
00:35:20,569 --> 00:35:18,900
when you get home don't be afraid I knew

822
00:35:22,010 --> 00:35:20,579
it because it told me that and I told

823
00:35:24,589 --> 00:35:22,020
him

824
00:35:27,890 --> 00:35:24,599
two weeks later he's writing me calling

825
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:27,900
me frantic that water was raining inside

826
00:35:33,650 --> 00:35:30,720
his house in different places where he'd

827
00:35:35,690 --> 00:35:33,660
be in the bed and all of a sudden water

828
00:35:37,970 --> 00:35:35,700
just sprinkles all over him and his wife

829
00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:37,980
or he's in the den and his big puddle of

830
00:35:41,630 --> 00:35:39,540
water on the floor

831
00:35:43,790 --> 00:35:41,640
he said I just put a new roof on this

832
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:43,800
house and you know it's a beach house in

833
00:35:47,210 --> 00:35:45,119
Alabama

834
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:47,220
I said don't be afraid Bob I told you

835
00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:49,680
this is going to happen well within a

836
00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:51,660
week or so his wife

837
00:35:56,690 --> 00:35:53,700
who had a stroke

838
00:35:58,130 --> 00:35:56,700
is now no longer showing any symptoms of

839
00:36:02,089 --> 00:35:58,140
Australia

840
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:02,099
so this is a story that permeates

841
00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:04,320
throughout this book many stories like

842
00:36:08,450 --> 00:36:05,160
that

843
00:36:11,450 --> 00:36:08,460
nothing negative has never been negative

844
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,460
and um I'm sorry for anyone that's had

845
00:36:15,410 --> 00:36:13,440
negative experiences but that's not been

846
00:36:18,349 --> 00:36:15,420
mine none whatsoever

847
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:18,359
and get back to spin the opposite

848
00:36:23,810 --> 00:36:20,640
one of the stories that's touched on in

849
00:36:25,310 --> 00:36:23,820
the book I spoke to chase klutzky

850
00:36:28,910 --> 00:36:25,320
um back in the early days of the podcast

851
00:36:30,349 --> 00:36:28,920
in 2020 and at the time a listener had a

852
00:36:32,589 --> 00:36:30,359
shared a story with me which you

853
00:36:36,170 --> 00:36:32,599
included within the book and essentially

854
00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:36,180
chess and her husband was with her and a

855
00:36:40,910 --> 00:36:38,760
few other folks and you experienced

856
00:36:43,069 --> 00:36:40,920
messing time crossing our section of a

857
00:36:44,690 --> 00:36:43,079
field that you're you're all well aware

858
00:36:47,390 --> 00:36:44,700
I should only take a few minutes and it

859
00:36:49,310 --> 00:36:47,400
takes much longer during that encounter

860
00:36:52,490 --> 00:36:49,320
The Listener asked me given something

861
00:36:55,370 --> 00:36:52,500
they had heard that you had been taken

862
00:36:56,810 --> 00:36:55,380
off Planet during that experience and I

863
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:56,820
wonder if that's something you would

864
00:37:02,210 --> 00:36:59,520
confirm if that has ever happened to you

865
00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:02,220
or anyone with you I asked Chase and at

866
00:37:07,849 --> 00:37:04,440
the time she didn't want to comment

867
00:37:08,450 --> 00:37:07,859
well I write about chasing the book and

868
00:37:12,349 --> 00:37:08,460
um

869
00:37:15,290 --> 00:37:12,359
a little short her husband is a U.S

870
00:37:18,050 --> 00:37:15,300
naval sub Commander right Carrie secret

871
00:37:20,450 --> 00:37:18,060
Clarence says he's this big guy he

872
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:20,460
navigates the world underneath the water

873
00:37:26,089 --> 00:37:24,240
and has a watched navigation watched I

874
00:37:29,930 --> 00:37:26,099
mean High texting

875
00:37:33,410 --> 00:37:29,940
and what it was was is a

876
00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:33,420
a group of people uh from a ghost

877
00:37:40,609 --> 00:37:36,900
hunting outfit in Wilmington North

878
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:40,619
Carolina was in my little Hometown where

879
00:37:44,569 --> 00:37:42,720
my mother was born and I was kind of

880
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:44,579
reared up little town called Saint

881
00:37:49,010 --> 00:37:46,320
Paul's

882
00:37:50,930 --> 00:37:49,020
my grandfather's buried there my family

883
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:50,940
is buried and it's only 20 minutes from

884
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:52,560
where I live now

885
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:55,680
but Chase calls me on a Sunday night and

886
00:38:01,310 --> 00:37:59,040
says oh Monday night and says Chris have

887
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:01,320
you ever heard of Saint Paul's

888
00:38:05,690 --> 00:38:04,079
I said hold on don't tell me yes I've

889
00:38:07,550 --> 00:38:05,700
heard of Saint Paul's I was raised there

890
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:07,560
I said but don't tell me I want to tell

891
00:38:10,730 --> 00:38:08,880
you first

892
00:38:13,370 --> 00:38:10,740
so I began to tell her about Saturday

893
00:38:15,530 --> 00:38:13,380
night I walk outside I sit down on the

894
00:38:19,010 --> 00:38:15,540
patio got a fire going

895
00:38:21,050 --> 00:38:19,020
and um I'm laid back looking straight up

896
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:21,060
at the sky just meditating and suddenly

897
00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:23,280
two orange orbs appear

898
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:26,460
way up and they came all the way down to

899
00:38:30,349 --> 00:38:28,560
the top of the trees and sat there in

900
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,359
the back of my property hovering over

901
00:38:35,569 --> 00:38:33,119
the trees two great big orange doors

902
00:38:38,569 --> 00:38:35,579
when they left they shot off towards

903
00:38:40,730 --> 00:38:38,579
Saint Paul's so I told her this story

904
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:40,740
and then she tells me about these Ghost

905
00:38:44,810 --> 00:38:42,720
Hunters

906
00:38:47,329 --> 00:38:44,820
um that they had walked out of the house

907
00:38:49,730 --> 00:38:47,339
and into the forest and

908
00:38:52,190 --> 00:38:49,740
these orange streaks went right over

909
00:38:54,890 --> 00:38:52,200
their head and two hours later

910
00:38:58,010 --> 00:38:54,900
uh they lost two hours of time so she

911
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:58,020
asked if I would be in interested in

912
00:39:03,050 --> 00:39:00,240
investigating it with her because she

913
00:39:04,130 --> 00:39:03,060
was coming to our area and so a week

914
00:39:08,329 --> 00:39:04,140
later

915
00:39:10,849 --> 00:39:08,339
I call a friend from NASA he flies in

916
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:10,859
um for the day I pick him up and

917
00:39:16,609 --> 00:39:13,440
that's the famous Timothy Taylor you

918
00:39:20,030 --> 00:39:16,619
hear Diana silk talk about I introduced

919
00:39:22,430 --> 00:39:20,040
him to Diana by the way she uh

920
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:22,440
she met him a couple years three years

921
00:39:26,450 --> 00:39:25,200
after I did or so

922
00:39:29,569 --> 00:39:26,460
um but

923
00:39:31,490 --> 00:39:29,579
we were all there and and that night

924
00:39:33,950 --> 00:39:31,500
they invited me back for a ghost hunt

925
00:39:36,170 --> 00:39:33,960
they wanted to recreate the thing

926
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:36,180
so I dropped Tim back off at the airport

927
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,400
and he goes home to Huntsville

928
00:39:43,010 --> 00:39:40,800
I went back over there and met with them

929
00:39:45,710 --> 00:39:43,020
and they did their thing in the house

930
00:39:47,690 --> 00:39:45,720
with their EVPs and I sat outside I

931
00:39:49,730 --> 00:39:47,700
wasn't interested in that

932
00:39:51,530 --> 00:39:49,740
but the where they missed time was

933
00:39:53,329 --> 00:39:51,540
behind the house

934
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:53,339
there's a cabin in the edge of the

935
00:39:58,250 --> 00:39:56,160
forest behind a kind of across the field

936
00:40:00,890 --> 00:39:58,260
so you walk out the back door of this

937
00:40:02,329 --> 00:40:00,900
plantation house is a Big Field go to

938
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:02,339
the other side of the field and inside

939
00:40:06,170 --> 00:40:04,800
the trees just in the woods is this

940
00:40:08,210 --> 00:40:06,180
cabin

941
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:08,220
so we go over there

942
00:40:15,710 --> 00:40:11,040
and we take off through the forest

943
00:40:17,930 --> 00:40:15,720
behind the cabin and 15 minutes walk we

944
00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:17,940
come out on a power line a big high

945
00:40:22,430 --> 00:40:20,520
tension power line just just a clear

946
00:40:23,690 --> 00:40:22,440
Lane you know you can see their way of

947
00:40:25,970 --> 00:40:23,700
mine

948
00:40:29,089 --> 00:40:25,980
but it's 15 minutes across these heads

949
00:40:31,490 --> 00:40:29,099
of woods but here's the key behind that

950
00:40:34,370 --> 00:40:31,500
cabin is a dish 10 feet from the back

951
00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:34,380
steps is a big ditch so we all had to go

952
00:40:38,210 --> 00:40:36,780
in the ditch it's dry trees growing up

953
00:40:40,310 --> 00:40:38,220
in a thick forest

954
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:40,320
and then with the 10 minutes to the

955
00:40:44,089 --> 00:40:41,760
power line

956
00:40:46,130 --> 00:40:44,099
so when it was time to go back to the

957
00:40:48,410 --> 00:40:46,140
cabin we made it through the woods got

958
00:40:50,270 --> 00:40:48,420
over there looked around and on our way

959
00:40:50,810 --> 00:40:50,280
back

960
00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:50,820
um

961
00:40:55,790 --> 00:40:53,280
when we started piece like I'll do the

962
00:40:57,650 --> 00:40:55,800
navigation we need to take this heading

963
00:41:00,170 --> 00:40:57,660
we're going to come right out at the car

964
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:00,180
where the cabin is

965
00:41:04,910 --> 00:41:03,119
so eight of us in that group I was the

966
00:41:07,370 --> 00:41:04,920
number Eighth in line I was in the back

967
00:41:10,010 --> 00:41:07,380
Chase was in front of me so we were

968
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:10,020
bringing up the tail end peace in the

969
00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:12,240
front God

970
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:15,960
when we get to the ditch Andy

971
00:41:22,250 --> 00:41:18,720
I'd never seen anything like this

972
00:41:26,329 --> 00:41:22,260
especially when I saw Pete and what it

973
00:41:29,950 --> 00:41:26,339
did to him this guy's six foot five or

974
00:41:34,370 --> 00:41:29,960
six and he's you know he's a he's a

975
00:41:37,130 --> 00:41:34,380
model maybe sealed just a big honking

976
00:41:41,089 --> 00:41:37,140
he's a teddy bear right but he's still

977
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:41,099
a very smart guy so when we got to the

978
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:43,440
dish and we walked down in a ditch and

979
00:41:48,290 --> 00:41:46,079
out on the other side we walked back out

980
00:41:49,970 --> 00:41:48,300
on the power line

981
00:41:51,829 --> 00:41:49,980
there is no ditch near the power line

982
00:41:54,530 --> 00:41:51,839
it's behind that cabin

983
00:41:57,410 --> 00:41:54,540
and when we did that everybody said oh

984
00:42:00,170 --> 00:41:57,420
my God and I didn't I knew what happened

985
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:00,180
because I was meditating I was singing a

986
00:42:05,810 --> 00:42:03,119
song the whole way across there

987
00:42:08,810 --> 00:42:05,820
and it messed everybody up really bad

988
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:08,820
and we went turned around and walked

989
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,280
back the other way towards the power

990
00:42:16,370 --> 00:42:13,680
line we thought and we came to the ditch

991
00:42:17,810 --> 00:42:16,380
again and walked through the ditch up to

992
00:42:20,329 --> 00:42:17,820
the cabin

993
00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:20,339
and it just blew the whole group's mind

994
00:42:24,050 --> 00:42:22,680
and I told him I said we lost 15 minutes

995
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,060
of time

996
00:42:28,490 --> 00:42:26,400
well and so they went home and they were

997
00:42:30,770 --> 00:42:28,500
they had helmet cams and recording

998
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:30,780
devices and you know

999
00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:33,119
they had all kinds of equipment they had

1000
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:36,060
started a timer in the car

1001
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:39,359
and she calls me on

1002
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:40,800
the following

1003
00:42:44,329 --> 00:42:42,720
um Monday or Tuesday after they reviewed

1004
00:42:46,010 --> 00:42:44,339
the evidence and she said you're never

1005
00:42:49,010 --> 00:42:46,020
going to believe what happened I said

1006
00:42:51,050 --> 00:42:49,020
yeah we lost 15 minutes of time

1007
00:42:54,109 --> 00:42:51,060
she said how did you know

1008
00:42:56,210 --> 00:42:54,119
I said because I witnessed it it takes

1009
00:42:56,990 --> 00:42:56,220
15 minutes to go across that head of

1010
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:57,000
words

1011
00:43:01,130 --> 00:43:00,000
and one trip across that is when they

1012
00:43:03,770 --> 00:43:01,140
took us

1013
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:03,780
and um

1014
00:43:08,990 --> 00:43:06,000
see anyhow yeah I write about this story

1015
00:43:11,450 --> 00:43:09,000
and it is a lot more to it

1016
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:11,460
and um

1017
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:12,720
yeah

1018
00:43:16,849 --> 00:43:14,640
so that's not the only person I've had

1019
00:43:19,730 --> 00:43:16,859
scientists from the government lose as

1020
00:43:23,210 --> 00:43:19,740
much as two hours of time on my property

1021
00:43:29,390 --> 00:43:26,030
and I wonder how many times do you

1022
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:29,400
remember potentially being taken off

1023
00:43:32,750 --> 00:43:30,720
planet

1024
00:43:36,290 --> 00:43:32,760
quite a few

1025
00:43:37,849 --> 00:43:36,300
right and the any of the others such as

1026
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,859
and I know Chase didn't want to talk

1027
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:39,359
about it at the time

1028
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:41,040
um but any of those scientists or

1029
00:43:45,890 --> 00:43:43,200
officials if they have that messing time

1030
00:43:47,809 --> 00:43:45,900
experience do any of them recall what

1031
00:43:50,569 --> 00:43:47,819
happened to them or does it tend to be

1032
00:43:53,450 --> 00:43:50,579
just missing for them it tends to mess

1033
00:43:56,569 --> 00:43:53,460
with their memories I can't remember

1034
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:56,579
what happened during that time and I

1035
00:44:02,089 --> 00:44:00,000
don't think we ever will no because they

1036
00:44:03,470 --> 00:44:02,099
have a good way of erasing your memory

1037
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:03,480
and

1038
00:44:11,809 --> 00:44:09,599
hoping you find Clues but

1039
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:11,819
um you can remember bits and pieces of

1040
00:44:18,829 --> 00:44:13,680
it

1041
00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:18,839
hours on the river I have plain memories

1042
00:44:25,450 --> 00:44:21,480
about being over Egypt

1043
00:44:29,630 --> 00:44:25,460
of all that night of the grueling

1044
00:44:32,210 --> 00:44:29,640
uh it was just it was a a big thing

1045
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:32,220
scared us all to death and four hours

1046
00:44:39,050 --> 00:44:36,000
seemed like four years in that world

1047
00:44:40,609 --> 00:44:39,060
and I have lots of memories but the

1048
00:44:43,309 --> 00:44:40,619
Egypt

1049
00:44:47,210 --> 00:44:43,319
the Temple of hath Thor

1050
00:44:49,609 --> 00:44:47,220
the pyramids and the Spanx it's just

1051
00:44:51,170 --> 00:44:49,619
reverberates through my brain and it did

1052
00:44:54,410 --> 00:44:51,180
from the verb again

1053
00:44:56,750 --> 00:44:54,420
this it's a clue and it's in the book

1054
00:44:57,950 --> 00:44:56,760
there are many more stories like that in

1055
00:44:59,210 --> 00:44:57,960
the book and obviously I don't want to

1056
00:45:01,130 --> 00:44:59,220
go through them all because that would

1057
00:45:02,329 --> 00:45:01,140
defeat the purpose of of you writing a

1058
00:45:04,490 --> 00:45:02,339
book you could have just came on this

1059
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,500
podcast and told them all so I'll I'll

1060
00:45:08,569 --> 00:45:06,480
not tell any more stories what I want to

1061
00:45:10,609 --> 00:45:08,579
do though Chris is I had a fantastic

1062
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:10,619
response from listeners getting in touch

1063
00:45:14,690 --> 00:45:12,960
to ask questions so I would love to go

1064
00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:14,700
through some of those and I've got a

1065
00:45:17,930 --> 00:45:15,960
really good one to start off with

1066
00:45:20,450 --> 00:45:17,940
because you've just mentioned uh the

1067
00:45:23,450 --> 00:45:20,460
Egyptian goddess hathor and Egypt so

1068
00:45:26,329 --> 00:45:23,460
this question from Joe asks does Chris

1069
00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:26,339
believe that the lady is the same entity

1070
00:45:31,550 --> 00:45:28,319
that appeared to the three children at

1071
00:45:33,950 --> 00:45:31,560
Fatima in Portugal on Ryan bledsoe's

1072
00:45:36,410 --> 00:45:33,960
podcast Ryan mentioned that the lady had

1073
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:36,420
identified herself as author of the

1074
00:45:42,650 --> 00:45:38,640
Egyptian goddess can Chris share his

1075
00:45:44,569 --> 00:45:42,660
thoughts on this yeah absolutely uh a

1076
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,579
hundred percent believe that and

1077
00:45:48,589 --> 00:45:46,560
everybody that's investigated include

1078
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:48,599
the Vatican um

1079
00:45:55,609 --> 00:45:52,079
does as well whether they admit it

1080
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:55,619
publicly I'm not a Catholic right so how

1081
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:58,400
can a Baptist guy in North Carolina

1082
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:00,720
meet the lady

1083
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:02,880
but what got their attention is the

1084
00:46:08,210 --> 00:46:05,760
details that I told the details like the

1085
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:08,220
settings on the little children of

1086
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:09,680
Fatima

1087
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:13,200
I think the official story is the sun

1088
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:15,599
seemed to spin around and around and

1089
00:46:22,609 --> 00:46:18,960
kind of wobble but no that's the real

1090
00:46:24,650 --> 00:46:22,619
story is that a Setting Sun that looked

1091
00:46:26,690 --> 00:46:24,660
like the Setting Sun appeared and it

1092
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:26,700
could come down out of the sky it got so

1093
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,800
close it dried their clothes out had

1094
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:30,960
rained previously and it dried them all

1095
00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:32,400
out and

1096
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:34,800
orbs were flying everywhere they were

1097
00:46:40,970 --> 00:46:38,240
going around and this this

1098
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:40,980
like what you would call a flying saucer

1099
00:46:44,930 --> 00:46:43,440
but a disc appears way up high and it

1100
00:46:46,910 --> 00:46:44,940
drops down through the clouds and it's

1101
00:46:49,490 --> 00:46:46,920
got lights going around it and orbs

1102
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:49,500
going everywhere this was all witnessed

1103
00:46:54,770 --> 00:46:50,400
by

1104
00:46:57,250 --> 00:46:54,780
uh probably 70 or 80 000 people and a

1105
00:47:00,650 --> 00:46:57,260
lot of them put it in in writing

1106
00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:00,660
so if you investigate that you'll see

1107
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:04,079
the uh the lady that I described was

1108
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:06,960
just like the lady in that the children

1109
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:08,640
described

1110
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:11,520
and there's a lot out there about she

1111
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,440
was a little tiny lady she was only like

1112
00:47:17,930 --> 00:47:15,359
three or four feet tall

1113
00:47:19,250 --> 00:47:17,940
and had a skirt on

1114
00:47:21,650 --> 00:47:19,260
you know

1115
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:21,660
so there's a lot uh yeah I think it was

1116
00:47:25,609 --> 00:47:22,800
the same one

1117
00:47:27,770 --> 00:47:25,619
who is that I think is she's connected

1118
00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:27,780
to hathon

1119
00:47:36,410 --> 00:47:32,400
and probably in every on every continent

1120
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:36,420
in every country they have stories of a

1121
00:47:41,210 --> 00:47:40,319
female Divine female the feminine the

1122
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:41,220
lady

1123
00:47:48,430 --> 00:47:44,160
uh in their in their history and it's

1124
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:48,440
not by accident you got Diana Demeter

1125
00:47:57,050 --> 00:47:53,520
Hera hath Thor Isis

1126
00:47:59,390 --> 00:47:57,060
um Sheba or you know

1127
00:48:03,710 --> 00:47:59,400
just it's

1128
00:48:07,130 --> 00:48:03,720
the oldest depiction of God the oldest

1129
00:48:09,790 --> 00:48:07,140
is the ellucian figure according to Dr

1130
00:48:13,130 --> 00:48:09,800
George zervos he gave me a replica of it

1131
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:13,140
some human nearly three-quarters of a

1132
00:48:18,650 --> 00:48:14,880
million years ago

1133
00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:18,660
a human decided to model

1134
00:48:24,650 --> 00:48:22,319
a figure of God and they dug this up by

1135
00:48:26,510 --> 00:48:24,660
the ground in a civil woman of course

1136
00:48:28,970 --> 00:48:26,520
her face is hidden it's got like a

1137
00:48:32,030 --> 00:48:28,980
beehive over her face but it's clearly a

1138
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:32,040
woman and it's what they were worshiping

1139
00:48:37,250 --> 00:48:34,079
nearly three quarters of a million years

1140
00:48:40,010 --> 00:48:37,260
ago the ulendorf figure come from

1141
00:48:41,450 --> 00:48:40,020
Germany is 50 000 years old a little

1142
00:48:44,510 --> 00:48:41,460
metal figure

1143
00:48:46,670 --> 00:48:44,520
and uh is of the same lady with a

1144
00:48:50,569 --> 00:48:46,680
beehive on her head and you know women

1145
00:48:52,430 --> 00:48:50,579
features and he was a mother goddess

1146
00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:52,440
so

1147
00:48:58,849 --> 00:48:54,900
um it's just my belief that's who she

1148
00:49:00,410 --> 00:48:58,859
may be but I'll stop short of

1149
00:49:02,930 --> 00:49:00,420
of

1150
00:49:07,089 --> 00:49:02,940
making claims I think we just all should

1151
00:49:08,990 --> 00:49:07,099
read the book If you really want a

1152
00:49:12,890 --> 00:49:09,000
more

1153
00:49:15,410 --> 00:49:12,900
I take it all matters the whole story to

1154
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,420
help come to that conclusion of what

1155
00:49:19,609 --> 00:49:17,280
these are

1156
00:49:22,609 --> 00:49:19,619
well I'll ask you the the next question

1157
00:49:24,349 --> 00:49:22,619
from Kendra Kendra asks she would love

1158
00:49:26,450 --> 00:49:24,359
to know your thoughts on whether you

1159
00:49:28,990 --> 00:49:26,460
believe your experiences could be

1160
00:49:32,210 --> 00:49:29,000
spiritual evidence that these beings are

1161
00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:32,220
angels nephilims or our creators slash

1162
00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:33,599
gods

1163
00:49:40,430 --> 00:49:36,720
well uh one thing I'd like to clarify

1164
00:49:43,970 --> 00:49:40,440
is the the word Nephilim now that's been

1165
00:49:46,609 --> 00:49:43,980
misconstrued a billion percent if you

1166
00:49:50,210 --> 00:49:46,619
read the Genesis 6

1167
00:49:54,050 --> 00:49:50,220
and it says and let me see how of course

1168
00:49:55,069 --> 00:49:54,060
exactly or as close as I can get it and

1169
00:49:56,329 --> 00:49:55,079
it said

1170
00:49:58,690 --> 00:49:56,339
um

1171
00:50:01,190 --> 00:49:58,700
that

1172
00:50:03,849 --> 00:50:01,200
shoot I got brain blocked I'd have to

1173
00:50:07,490 --> 00:50:03,859
find it but it talks about in those days

1174
00:50:09,890 --> 00:50:07,500
the Nephilim were here

1175
00:50:12,290 --> 00:50:09,900
before

1176
00:50:14,450 --> 00:50:12,300
and after

1177
00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:14,460
the sons of God

1178
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:16,079
came down

1179
00:50:23,569 --> 00:50:19,920
and cohabited with the daughters of man

1180
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:23,579
the sons of God were here before and

1181
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:24,720
after

1182
00:50:33,170 --> 00:50:28,800
and that the children of this Union were

1183
00:50:34,970 --> 00:50:33,180
men of great Renown it never says that

1184
00:50:38,109 --> 00:50:34,980
the Nephilim were the children of the

1185
00:50:41,150 --> 00:50:38,119
Fallen Angels not true

1186
00:50:43,730 --> 00:50:41,160
it says that they were here before and

1187
00:50:47,390 --> 00:50:43,740
after it's plain to read just read that

1188
00:50:50,030 --> 00:50:47,400
anybody can so it's there that's a

1189
00:50:51,890 --> 00:50:50,040
different interpretation so people take

1190
00:50:54,290 --> 00:50:51,900
one or two words in the Bible and make

1191
00:50:56,809 --> 00:50:54,300
this humongous story

1192
00:50:59,450 --> 00:50:56,819
that where do they get this from it's

1193
00:51:01,849 --> 00:50:59,460
all out of their you know just out of

1194
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:01,859
two or three little words there's not a

1195
00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:04,079
whole lot in the Bible about it

1196
00:51:10,190 --> 00:51:07,920
so I will say when I reported it

1197
00:51:12,170 --> 00:51:10,200
16 years ago

1198
00:51:14,089 --> 00:51:12,180
to move on

1199
00:51:16,430 --> 00:51:14,099
when they were interviewing my whole

1200
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:16,440
family and we were standing out by the

1201
00:51:22,970 --> 00:51:20,640
tree that uh the bin was up under and it

1202
00:51:24,829 --> 00:51:22,980
killed the tree the limbs just fell off

1203
00:51:28,010 --> 00:51:24,839
of it and they took samples and found

1204
00:51:29,930 --> 00:51:28,020
this unusual radiation background and

1205
00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:29,940
stuff from this tree

1206
00:51:33,890 --> 00:51:31,920
I just told him straight up they said

1207
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:33,900
what do you think happened I said I

1208
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:36,480
believe they were angels

1209
00:51:42,290 --> 00:51:38,640
I believe that then and I believe it now

1210
00:51:44,530 --> 00:51:42,300
but I'm still not sure right because

1211
00:51:48,290 --> 00:51:44,540
how do you know for sure

1212
00:51:52,250 --> 00:51:48,300
other than they my interaction with them

1213
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,260
tends to tell me that's who I'm involved

1214
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:54,720
with I think there's a

1215
00:51:59,690 --> 00:51:57,359
there's good and evil I think weather is

1216
00:52:02,510 --> 00:51:59,700
good there's Darkness there may be

1217
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:02,520
aliens out there I I don't know I can't

1218
00:52:07,309 --> 00:52:03,599
say

1219
00:52:09,049 --> 00:52:07,319
positive

1220
00:52:11,510 --> 00:52:09,059
and it's got the attention of the

1221
00:52:13,069 --> 00:52:11,520
federal government for sure it certainly

1222
00:52:14,809 --> 00:52:13,079
has and I'm going to get to that in the

1223
00:52:17,089 --> 00:52:14,819
follow-up at Kendra I had one more point

1224
00:52:20,809 --> 00:52:17,099
to ask she wonders giving you the

1225
00:52:23,809 --> 00:52:20,819
experiences do you have any

1226
00:52:26,510 --> 00:52:23,819
idea what you think the point of life

1227
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:26,520
and our Human Experience is has that

1228
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:28,319
shaped it at all

1229
00:52:33,410 --> 00:52:31,200
uh yeah in fact I'm on the record for

1230
00:52:36,410 --> 00:52:33,420
years talking about where we are I

1231
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:36,420
believe that the real world is the

1232
00:52:41,870 --> 00:52:39,359
Eternal world around us uh but any

1233
00:52:45,290 --> 00:52:41,880
reason I say that is I have so much so

1234
00:52:48,650 --> 00:52:45,300
many photos of orbs

1235
00:52:51,290 --> 00:52:48,660
with my dog in the orb I lost a labrador

1236
00:52:54,049 --> 00:52:51,300
I was at Mission Control at Cape

1237
00:52:56,990 --> 00:52:54,059
Canaveral came home been there almost a

1238
00:52:58,670 --> 00:52:57,000
week drove home unexpectedly on a

1239
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:58,680
Saturday night I got home at eight

1240
00:53:03,230 --> 00:53:01,200
o'clock in the morning and there's I

1241
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:03,240
knew when I turned off the road into my

1242
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:05,040
driveway she was dead because when I

1243
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:06,960
opened the door my wife and I were there

1244
00:53:12,770 --> 00:53:10,079
I said how did my dog die blew him away

1245
00:53:15,349 --> 00:53:12,780
that was the first question I asked

1246
00:53:17,930 --> 00:53:15,359
so I went out to a grave

1247
00:53:21,410 --> 00:53:17,940
they buried her in the backyard

1248
00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:21,420
and I went out there and here this ball

1249
00:53:25,849 --> 00:53:23,460
of light comes up out of the grave and I

1250
00:53:29,089 --> 00:53:25,859
took a picture and anybody can you can't

1251
00:53:32,329 --> 00:53:29,099
unsee it you see my lab in that ball of

1252
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:32,339
life and I have children and I have all

1253
00:53:37,609 --> 00:53:35,520
kinds of life in these orbs multiple

1254
00:53:42,049 --> 00:53:37,619
people and some of them

1255
00:53:43,609 --> 00:53:42,059
so what it tells me is there the you

1256
00:53:45,410 --> 00:53:43,619
don't go anywhere

1257
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:45,420
that you read the Bible they teach you

1258
00:53:50,569 --> 00:53:47,760
that when you die you go somewhere way

1259
00:53:52,609 --> 00:53:50,579
out there way away well I don't believe

1260
00:53:53,690 --> 00:53:52,619
that I think when you die you just stay

1261
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:53,700
here

1262
00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:56,400
and they're all around us watching us go

1263
00:54:01,309 --> 00:53:59,040
through this simulation much like a

1264
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:01,319
video game when when we create a false

1265
00:54:05,210 --> 00:54:03,599
reality kids get in it and they they

1266
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:05,220
become some of them so hooked they don't

1267
00:54:10,010 --> 00:54:07,200
come out of their basement they live in

1268
00:54:12,109 --> 00:54:10,020
a fake world right playing

1269
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:12,119
well I think we're somewhat like that

1270
00:54:18,730 --> 00:54:16,079
that these beings are able to create a

1271
00:54:22,130 --> 00:54:18,740
biological

1272
00:54:25,130 --> 00:54:22,140
simulation and it is something we must

1273
00:54:28,210 --> 00:54:25,140
experience the happiness and the pain

1274
00:54:31,010 --> 00:54:28,220
and the suffering and the sadness and

1275
00:54:33,650 --> 00:54:31,020
but when we leave from here we go back

1276
00:54:36,530 --> 00:54:33,660
to our family that's waiting for us I

1277
00:54:40,370 --> 00:54:36,540
think if your mama or your grandma's

1278
00:54:43,730 --> 00:54:40,380
passed away she's right beside you

1279
00:54:45,290 --> 00:54:43,740
watching cheering you on hoping you make

1280
00:54:47,870 --> 00:54:45,300
the right decisions

1281
00:54:50,089 --> 00:54:47,880
that's my thoughts on the matter

1282
00:54:52,370 --> 00:54:50,099
no thanks for that answer the next

1283
00:54:54,410 --> 00:54:52,380
question was from Casey in case it asks

1284
00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:54,420
it seems like Chris has been surrounded

1285
00:54:59,089 --> 00:54:56,880
by Deep internal contacts now for some

1286
00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:59,099
time and you've mentioned that's what 16

1287
00:55:03,890 --> 00:55:01,920
years now some of those agencies have a

1288
00:55:06,410 --> 00:55:03,900
less than Stellar track record of

1289
00:55:08,510 --> 00:55:06,420
telling the truth how do you keep things

1290
00:55:10,130 --> 00:55:08,520
straight when you interact with these

1291
00:55:13,849 --> 00:55:10,140
folks and how do you know you're not

1292
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:13,859
being told lies or LED astray by these

1293
00:55:19,609 --> 00:55:17,280
folks well they don't and they don't

1294
00:55:21,770 --> 00:55:19,619
um I don't have that problem because

1295
00:55:23,809 --> 00:55:21,780
when they come here they're not coming

1296
00:55:25,549 --> 00:55:23,819
to tell me anything they're coming to

1297
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:25,559
study the phenomena

1298
00:55:29,809 --> 00:55:27,839
that's a big difference they know it's

1299
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:29,819
here they know it's around me they know

1300
00:55:34,730 --> 00:55:32,160
I'm connected to it it's like NASA it's

1301
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:34,740
in the book right away when they came to

1302
00:55:40,430 --> 00:55:37,920
my house they flew they took me down to

1303
00:55:43,069 --> 00:55:40,440
the to the most secured facilities on

1304
00:55:45,049 --> 00:55:43,079
Earth machine guns pointing at you as I

1305
00:55:47,210 --> 00:55:45,059
walked in these doors had to have a

1306
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:47,220
security clearance to get in there

1307
00:55:54,410 --> 00:55:51,599
and um I asked them I said why am

1308
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:54,420
worried about me what what good am I to

1309
00:55:58,730 --> 00:55:55,920
you guys you've got the biggest

1310
00:56:02,270 --> 00:55:58,740
telescope she got the best cameras on

1311
00:56:06,609 --> 00:56:02,280
Earth you got all the money in the world

1312
00:56:09,230 --> 00:56:06,619
you got space rockets and space stations

1313
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:09,240
why do you care about me some little

1314
00:56:16,130 --> 00:56:12,240
country guy from North Carolina

1315
00:56:18,410 --> 00:56:16,140
and and Tim Taylor is who I asked that

1316
00:56:20,089 --> 00:56:18,420
to he looks at me

1317
00:56:23,150 --> 00:56:20,099
and said Chris

1318
00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:23,160
we know it's there we see it but it has

1319
00:56:29,770 --> 00:56:26,880
absolutely nothing to do with us none

1320
00:56:32,329 --> 00:56:29,780
but we know it likes you for some reason

1321
00:56:34,370 --> 00:56:32,339
and we'd just like to be a part of that

1322
00:56:37,309 --> 00:56:34,380
we'd like to study it and he told me

1323
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:37,319
then he said don't ever go to any

1324
00:56:42,589 --> 00:56:38,960
conferences

1325
00:56:44,930 --> 00:56:42,599
uh not for now stay away from others

1326
00:56:47,329 --> 00:56:44,940
that experience things don't listen to

1327
00:56:50,270 --> 00:56:47,339
it because we'd like your experience to

1328
00:56:51,290 --> 00:56:50,280
be yours so when you tend to go to these

1329
00:56:54,049 --> 00:56:51,300
places

1330
00:56:56,390 --> 00:56:54,059
people are left with these uh what

1331
00:56:58,190 --> 00:56:56,400
happened to me and suddenly you're

1332
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:58,200
beginning to believe what happened to

1333
00:57:04,730 --> 00:57:01,440
them happened to you and then all of a

1334
00:57:07,970 --> 00:57:04,740
sudden it's a pleiadian or a Galactic

1335
00:57:10,730 --> 00:57:07,980
Federation or something that that

1336
00:57:12,190 --> 00:57:10,740
becomes your story so I've stayed away

1337
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:12,200
from others

1338
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:14,880
intentionally for all these years not

1339
00:57:20,990 --> 00:57:17,760
going to these things so my experience

1340
00:57:22,069 --> 00:57:21,000
is mine and that's that's where it all

1341
00:57:24,410 --> 00:57:22,079
started

1342
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:24,420
and it passed around through the

1343
00:57:28,329 --> 00:57:26,640
agencies and different people

1344
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:28,339
from different

1345
00:57:34,250 --> 00:57:31,200
three-letter agencies or four came here

1346
00:57:35,870 --> 00:57:34,260
and still come here and they surrounded

1347
00:57:38,569 --> 00:57:35,880
their wagons around me because they can

1348
00:57:41,930 --> 00:57:38,579
study it here that's why

1349
00:57:42,890 --> 00:57:41,940
Java cat asks do you ever regret going

1350
00:57:44,569 --> 00:57:42,900
public

1351
00:57:46,190 --> 00:57:44,579
not at all

1352
00:57:48,349 --> 00:57:46,200
I used to

1353
00:57:50,210 --> 00:57:48,359
if you read the book you'll see the

1354
00:57:53,210 --> 00:57:50,220
struggle I had with that

1355
00:57:55,370 --> 00:57:53,220
there's so much in the book that that

1356
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:55,380
will

1357
00:58:00,829 --> 00:57:57,839
it shows you the ups and downs and the

1358
00:58:04,250 --> 00:58:00,839
heartaches and the joy and me being here

1359
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:04,260
I am working on stem cell research for

1360
00:58:10,730 --> 00:58:07,440
NASA right with NASA

1361
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:10,740
I have no college education I couldn't

1362
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:12,720
afford it when I was young I family

1363
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:15,599
couldn't we were just you know poor

1364
00:58:19,549 --> 00:58:17,280
folks

1365
00:58:21,950 --> 00:58:19,559
but here I am suddenly working on the

1366
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:21,960
first stem cell transplant in history

1367
00:58:27,710 --> 00:58:25,440
and it was a very successful case and I

1368
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:27,720
got all these people online in the

1369
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:30,480
community dogging me how crazy you are

1370
00:58:35,569 --> 00:58:32,880
and I wanted to shout to the top of the

1371
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:35,579
roof if you only knew look at this you

1372
00:58:39,410 --> 00:58:37,680
know I'm in Mission Control if you only

1373
00:58:42,829 --> 00:58:39,420
knew what I'm doing

1374
00:58:47,150 --> 00:58:42,839
but yet I couldn't talk about it because

1375
00:58:49,549 --> 00:58:47,160
I agreed to to work and be and study

1376
00:58:50,329 --> 00:58:49,559
this because I wanted to know just like

1377
00:58:52,210 --> 00:58:50,339
that

1378
00:58:55,069 --> 00:58:52,220
honestly I don't think the government

1379
00:58:58,190 --> 00:58:55,079
understands I know they don't they

1380
00:58:59,930 --> 00:58:58,200
absolutely don't know what it is I can

1381
00:59:01,490 --> 00:58:59,940
tell you they don't

1382
00:59:03,770 --> 00:59:01,500
and they don't know how to tell it

1383
00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:03,780
because it's conscience based it's far

1384
00:59:09,950 --> 00:59:06,720
more complex than any of us can imagine

1385
00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:09,960
and so I'm telling what they don't know

1386
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:11,760
how to tell

1387
00:59:16,370 --> 00:59:14,160
and they're that's why they wrote the

1388
00:59:18,170 --> 00:59:16,380
forwards and all this in my book and the

1389
00:59:19,789 --> 00:59:18,180
introductions and they've been around me

1390
00:59:21,650 --> 00:59:19,799
they would love for me to tell it

1391
00:59:26,089 --> 00:59:21,660
because they don't know how

1392
00:59:27,829 --> 00:59:26,099
a shoe complex you know

1393
00:59:29,630 --> 00:59:27,839
oh crash I've only got a couple of

1394
00:59:31,609 --> 00:59:29,640
questions left the really interesting

1395
00:59:33,289 --> 00:59:31,619
one for you from the Tree of Life who

1396
00:59:35,870 --> 00:59:33,299
sends in some wonderful questions for

1397
00:59:37,849 --> 00:59:35,880
guests does Chris feel the trauma he

1398
00:59:40,910 --> 00:59:37,859
suffered earlier in his life was a

1399
00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:40,920
prerequisite for his experiences or do

1400
00:59:45,770 --> 00:59:43,200
you think you were chosen because you

1401
00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:45,780
suffered or did you suffer because they

1402
00:59:50,329 --> 00:59:48,000
chose you and had a plan for you

1403
00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:50,339
well and you know I've thought about

1404
00:59:53,809 --> 00:59:52,319
this a million times

1405
00:59:56,450 --> 00:59:53,819
but

1406
00:59:57,410 --> 00:59:56,460
um I'm pretty sure that it's been from

1407
00:59:59,390 --> 00:59:57,420
birth

1408
01:00:01,970 --> 00:59:59,400
because you and you and I think there

1409
01:00:05,390 --> 01:00:01,980
was a dark aspect that didn't want me to

1410
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:05,400
be here today or else all these weird

1411
01:00:11,390 --> 01:00:07,920
things wouldn't happen to me

1412
01:00:12,410 --> 01:00:11,400
um but I think there was a battle

1413
01:00:14,809 --> 01:00:12,420
um

1414
01:00:16,430 --> 01:00:14,819
I think they they brought me here just

1415
01:00:18,289 --> 01:00:16,440
like they brought all of us here for

1416
01:00:21,470 --> 01:00:18,299
whatever reason

1417
01:00:23,329 --> 01:00:21,480
but it's been from early on it it wasn't

1418
01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:23,339
uh

1419
01:00:30,289 --> 01:00:26,880
you know I think suffering

1420
01:00:32,170 --> 01:00:30,299
brings us closer to to knowledge into

1421
01:00:33,890 --> 01:00:32,180
the truth and

1422
01:00:36,829 --> 01:00:33,900
you know

1423
01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:36,839
this is a hard question to answer there

1424
01:00:40,730 --> 01:00:38,640
but I think it's been since I was a

1425
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:40,740
little boy

1426
01:00:45,289 --> 01:00:43,200
um Chris a question from Xander he asks

1427
01:00:47,390 --> 01:00:45,299
last year there were many prominent

1428
01:00:50,089 --> 01:00:47,400
names in the UFO topic discussing

1429
01:00:51,710 --> 01:00:50,099
potential cataclysms and rumors of

1430
01:00:53,809 --> 01:00:51,720
cataclysms that were potentially coming

1431
01:00:55,849 --> 01:00:53,819
up for the planet or or the human

1432
01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:55,859
species have you heard anything about

1433
01:00:58,730 --> 01:00:57,599
that or do you have any assessment on

1434
01:01:01,130 --> 01:00:58,740
that

1435
01:01:04,250 --> 01:01:01,140
well I was shown a whole lot of stuff

1436
01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:04,260
and um but I'll just say this

1437
01:01:11,690 --> 01:01:08,400
I despise negativity I will not talk

1438
01:01:14,030 --> 01:01:11,700
about anything negative I was showing

1439
01:01:17,089 --> 01:01:14,040
um but I was showing something even

1440
01:01:19,370 --> 01:01:17,099
greater this the lady when she came she

1441
01:01:22,730 --> 01:01:19,380
came at Easter 2012.

1442
01:01:25,370 --> 01:01:22,740
uh the Lady of Fatima saying lady I

1443
01:01:28,490 --> 01:01:25,380
assume or Guadalupe or Lourdes France

1444
01:01:30,890 --> 01:01:28,500
and same as The White Buffalo Calf lady

1445
01:01:34,609 --> 01:01:30,900
the Indians the Native Americans in the

1446
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:34,619
in this country have a history Rich

1447
01:01:40,910 --> 01:01:38,400
about this this glowing white lady that

1448
01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:40,920
called it a White Buffalo Calf lady

1449
01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:43,440
that would appear and save troubles on

1450
01:01:47,930 --> 01:01:46,079
the way and and warn the people in

1451
01:01:49,970 --> 01:01:47,940
advance and

1452
01:01:52,609 --> 01:01:49,980
but she told me

1453
01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:52,619
that um

1454
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:55,440
that peace was going to come after some

1455
01:02:00,010 --> 01:01:56,640
trouble

1456
01:02:04,910 --> 01:02:00,020
but there's going to be a rain the the

1457
01:02:07,609 --> 01:02:04,920
divine feminine the the mother is coming

1458
01:02:10,130 --> 01:02:07,619
back there's a shift in heaven has

1459
01:02:13,430 --> 01:02:10,140
occurred and that peace will eventually

1460
01:02:14,329 --> 01:02:13,440
come so whatever happens between now and

1461
01:02:17,089 --> 01:02:14,339
then

1462
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:17,099
um I don't I don't focus on I don't want

1463
01:02:20,750 --> 01:02:18,960
to worry about it I don't watch the news

1464
01:02:22,069 --> 01:02:20,760
if I got up in the morning and they're

1465
01:02:24,650 --> 01:02:22,079
talking about

1466
01:02:26,329 --> 01:02:24,660
fighting and and I'll turn it off I

1467
01:02:28,490 --> 01:02:26,339
don't want to see it I don't have TV

1468
01:02:30,710 --> 01:02:28,500
anyhow I had in 10 years because I don't

1469
01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:30,720
want to hear it whatever enters your

1470
01:02:34,670 --> 01:02:33,599
eyes and your ears can mess you up and

1471
01:02:37,490 --> 01:02:34,680
keep you

1472
01:02:41,030 --> 01:02:37,500
from making contact to that Divine

1473
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:41,040
source so I try to stay as away from

1474
01:02:47,690 --> 01:02:44,400
that and as positive as as I can and I'm

1475
01:02:50,690 --> 01:02:47,700
looking for that beautiful day the lady

1476
01:02:52,750 --> 01:02:50,700
talks about it that is coming and so I'm

1477
01:02:54,589 --> 01:02:52,760
excited for that day

1478
01:02:58,430 --> 01:02:54,599
and um

1479
01:03:01,069 --> 01:02:58,440
yeah final question from Dave smithhurst

1480
01:03:02,809 --> 01:03:01,079
you have been in touch with many people

1481
01:03:04,549 --> 01:03:02,819
we've talked about from the intelligence

1482
01:03:07,010 --> 01:03:04,559
community and I know Chris you don't

1483
01:03:08,990 --> 01:03:07,020
like to to give your opinion or or put

1484
01:03:11,809 --> 01:03:09,000
upon folks what you think all of this

1485
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:11,819
might be but Dave wants to know do the

1486
01:03:16,370 --> 01:03:14,400
officials from the NSA NASA the

1487
01:03:18,589 --> 01:03:16,380
government do they often share with you

1488
01:03:20,569 --> 01:03:18,599
what they think it is is it is it

1489
01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:20,579
extraterrestrial in their opinion or

1490
01:03:23,450 --> 01:03:22,079
something that's maybe been here for a

1491
01:03:25,309 --> 01:03:23,460
long time

1492
01:03:28,309 --> 01:03:25,319
um yeah I've heard many

1493
01:03:29,809 --> 01:03:28,319
um of that a lot of that yeah we have

1494
01:03:34,309 --> 01:03:29,819
unofficially

1495
01:03:36,950 --> 01:03:34,319
we talk over a cup of coffee or you know

1496
01:03:39,289 --> 01:03:36,960
I travel with them sometimes and a lot

1497
01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:39,299
of them won't say anything because they

1498
01:03:44,870 --> 01:03:42,000
have clearances but I can honestly tell

1499
01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:44,880
you they don't know they really don't

1500
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:48,480
know what the people in this world think

1501
01:03:53,210 --> 01:03:50,880
that they know

1502
01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:53,220
um or else I wouldn't be involved with

1503
01:03:56,569 --> 01:03:54,240
them

1504
01:03:58,730 --> 01:03:56,579
um like like we are they're trying to

1505
01:04:01,549 --> 01:03:58,740
find out just themselves this is

1506
01:04:04,130 --> 01:04:01,559
conscience based it knows what you're

1507
01:04:05,990 --> 01:04:04,140
thinking before you can think it it

1508
01:04:08,569 --> 01:04:06,000
knows every move you're going to make

1509
01:04:10,250 --> 01:04:08,579
and it knows your reaction when it

1510
01:04:13,069 --> 01:04:10,260
appears to you it knows how you're going

1511
01:04:15,049 --> 01:04:13,079
to react if it if it and it don't want

1512
01:04:16,490 --> 01:04:15,059
to go against our free will

1513
01:04:18,530 --> 01:04:16,500
that's a fact

1514
01:04:21,349 --> 01:04:18,540
if you'll accept it

1515
01:04:23,510 --> 01:04:21,359
and you I put it in the book seek and

1516
01:04:25,849 --> 01:04:23,520
you'll find knock and the door will be

1517
01:04:28,430 --> 01:04:25,859
open you've got to want to see it you

1518
01:04:30,890 --> 01:04:28,440
got to believe and you got to accept it

1519
01:04:33,530 --> 01:04:30,900
tell them you're not afraid

1520
01:04:35,930 --> 01:04:33,540
and then you may develop a relationship

1521
01:04:38,089 --> 01:04:35,940
with something from the spiritual realm

1522
01:04:40,430 --> 01:04:38,099
but you got to be real careful because

1523
01:04:42,230 --> 01:04:40,440
if you're not grounded and and you're a

1524
01:04:43,130 --> 01:04:42,240
negative person you may get the wrong

1525
01:04:46,730 --> 01:04:43,140
thing

1526
01:04:48,770 --> 01:04:46,740
it's just very it's a fine line you have

1527
01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:48,780
to walk there

1528
01:04:52,370 --> 01:04:50,880
well Chris you've been wonderful with

1529
01:04:53,750 --> 01:04:52,380
your time and you've written the book

1530
01:04:56,329 --> 01:04:53,760
it's out there now for public

1531
01:04:58,370 --> 01:04:56,339
consumption it's doing incredibly well I

1532
01:05:00,950 --> 01:04:58,380
wonder what do you think ultimately will

1533
01:05:02,750 --> 01:05:00,960
be the final chapter for your story with

1534
01:05:05,089 --> 01:05:02,760
the phenomenon

1535
01:05:08,329 --> 01:05:05,099
well um

1536
01:05:11,450 --> 01:05:08,339
I I have no way of knowing uh I know

1537
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:11,460
that the the book is touching a lot of

1538
01:05:16,490 --> 01:05:13,920
lives and it's got some incredible

1539
01:05:18,829 --> 01:05:16,500
reviews I've had hundreds and hundreds

1540
01:05:20,930 --> 01:05:18,839
of people writing and saying I read the

1541
01:05:23,210 --> 01:05:20,940
story and you changed my life I cried

1542
01:05:25,670 --> 01:05:23,220
the whole time

1543
01:05:27,710 --> 01:05:25,680
um just really making an impact and it's

1544
01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:27,720
it's like number one bestseller and four

1545
01:05:33,230 --> 01:05:31,020
five six categories and I never expected

1546
01:05:35,990 --> 01:05:33,240
that I just

1547
01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:36,000
I tried to stay neutral and not put my

1548
01:05:40,549 --> 01:05:38,160
opinion on what's out there I'll let the

1549
01:05:42,950 --> 01:05:40,559
reader decide for themselves

1550
01:05:46,309 --> 01:05:42,960
and um

1551
01:05:49,190 --> 01:05:46,319
I suspect that uh

1552
01:05:52,970 --> 01:05:49,200
I really don't know Andy it's a hard

1553
01:05:55,130 --> 01:05:52,980
question to to answer there but

1554
01:05:56,750 --> 01:05:55,140
maybe sometimes it's better not knowing

1555
01:05:58,190 --> 01:05:56,760
and like you've said I think throughout

1556
01:06:00,589 --> 01:05:58,200
and through the book it's just an

1557
01:06:03,289 --> 01:06:00,599
experience to to go along with and and

1558
01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:03,299
just that experience it

1559
01:06:09,650 --> 01:06:07,440
yeah yeah to yeah it's definitely an

1560
01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:09,660
ongoing experience

1561
01:06:14,089 --> 01:06:12,240
and it's a joyful thing to me when I

1562
01:06:17,930 --> 01:06:14,099
walk outside at night I'm full of

1563
01:06:18,770 --> 01:06:17,940
happiness and joy and I expect them to

1564
01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:18,780
come

1565
01:06:24,289 --> 01:06:21,599
I know they're there they're in my house

1566
01:06:25,970 --> 01:06:24,299
quite often just two or three weeks ago

1567
01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:25,980
I was sitting in my chair in my little

1568
01:06:29,690 --> 01:06:27,119
cabin

1569
01:06:33,289 --> 01:06:29,700
and I my wife knows I go out every night

1570
01:06:37,010 --> 01:06:33,299
to to look at the stars I don't have TV

1571
01:06:39,349 --> 01:06:37,020
that's my television it's the heavens so

1572
01:06:42,109 --> 01:06:39,359
I go out and it's cloudy five minutes

1573
01:06:44,630 --> 01:06:42,119
later I walk in and my wife is there's

1574
01:06:46,849 --> 01:06:44,640
so decent attached from this it was like

1575
01:06:49,490 --> 01:06:46,859
she looks up and says well

1576
01:06:52,190 --> 01:06:49,500
when you got up went outside within a

1577
01:06:55,010 --> 01:06:52,200
minute an orb appeared over your chair a

1578
01:06:56,990 --> 01:06:55,020
green one about yeah big around bright

1579
01:06:59,930 --> 01:06:57,000
green lime green

1580
01:07:01,809 --> 01:06:59,940
and it's sitting there sizzling sizzling

1581
01:07:05,329 --> 01:07:01,819
making an electrical

1582
01:07:07,069 --> 01:07:05,339
and it's only eight feet from her she

1583
01:07:09,049 --> 01:07:07,079
never got out of a chair she's sitting

1584
01:07:13,010 --> 01:07:09,059
there looking at it and suddenly it

1585
01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:13,020
popped boom and it just popped and the

1586
01:07:17,809 --> 01:07:15,359
whole room flashed with green light and

1587
01:07:19,849 --> 01:07:17,819
she's telling me this um

1588
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:19,859
which we see this kind of stuff very

1589
01:07:24,170 --> 01:07:22,319
often it was like four or five different

1590
01:07:26,690 --> 01:07:24,180
orbs in the house in the last month

1591
01:07:29,329 --> 01:07:26,700
inside the house

1592
01:07:30,589 --> 01:07:29,339
not just up in the sky or in the forest

1593
01:07:32,690 --> 01:07:30,599
so

1594
01:07:34,250 --> 01:07:32,700
Chris I've not written that stone but I

1595
01:07:36,170 --> 01:07:34,260
just want to ask you one more thing just

1596
01:07:38,210 --> 01:07:36,180
that we have spoken about the phenomenon

1597
01:07:41,750 --> 01:07:38,220
throughout the interview it's very much

1598
01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:41,760
a part of your life I wonder if if you

1599
01:07:45,289 --> 01:07:44,160
stepped outside tomorrow and it all

1600
01:07:47,569 --> 01:07:45,299
stopped

1601
01:07:50,329 --> 01:07:47,579
how would you feel

1602
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:50,339
uh well I would have to accept it

1603
01:07:52,990 --> 01:07:52,319
because

1604
01:07:55,789 --> 01:07:53,000
um

1605
01:07:58,069 --> 01:07:55,799
it's totally up to them it's not up to

1606
01:08:00,950 --> 01:07:58,079
me and I'll be thankful on my knees

1607
01:08:02,930 --> 01:08:00,960
thanking them for every experience and I

1608
01:08:06,289 --> 01:08:02,940
ever had with them thanking them for

1609
01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:06,299
what they did to my family to uh the

1610
01:08:11,930 --> 01:08:10,079
blessings that came and uh and I know

1611
01:08:13,990 --> 01:08:11,940
they're in total control

1612
01:08:17,269 --> 01:08:14,000
but I don't think that will happen

1613
01:08:19,090 --> 01:08:17,279
because it's only gotten sweeter and

1614
01:08:24,590 --> 01:08:19,100
stronger

1615
01:08:27,050 --> 01:08:24,600
is growing and and I I ask them

1616
01:08:28,729 --> 01:08:27,060
questions and they answer me I hear them

1617
01:08:31,249 --> 01:08:28,739
telepathically

1618
01:08:33,650 --> 01:08:31,259
and John Alexander Colonel John

1619
01:08:36,590 --> 01:08:33,660
Alexander

1620
01:08:39,709 --> 01:08:36,600
writes about that his experience with me

1621
01:08:42,110 --> 01:08:39,719
and his book reality denied the second

1622
01:08:45,650 --> 01:08:42,120
chapter is about he and I walk in the

1623
01:08:47,150 --> 01:08:45,660
banks of the Cape Fear River and my

1624
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:47,160
daughter Emily was there and his wife

1625
01:08:51,950 --> 01:08:49,440
Victoria and we're standing against the

1626
01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:51,960
car of the Senate sat and the stars were

1627
01:08:55,309 --> 01:08:53,279
coming out and

1628
01:08:57,769 --> 01:08:55,319
I looked over at John I said John

1629
01:09:00,950 --> 01:08:57,779
they're here right now and I pointed up

1630
01:09:03,950 --> 01:09:00,960
and when I did it appeared above us a

1631
01:09:06,110 --> 01:09:03,960
huge ball of light and it sat there a

1632
01:09:08,749 --> 01:09:06,120
second flashing and then shut off to the

1633
01:09:11,990 --> 01:09:08,759
South it didn't fly over it appeared

1634
01:09:14,090 --> 01:09:12,000
and that changed his life and you know

1635
01:09:15,470 --> 01:09:14,100
he's a high level government official he

1636
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:15,480
was calling senators and everything

1637
01:09:20,329 --> 01:09:18,000
before he left them there it's like oh

1638
01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:20,339
my God you won't believe what happened

1639
01:09:26,150 --> 01:09:25,199
but read that book reality denied and

1640
01:09:29,510 --> 01:09:26,160
um

1641
01:09:32,689 --> 01:09:29,520
I'm just grateful for what's happening

1642
01:09:34,970 --> 01:09:32,699
and it's not one bit negative to me I

1643
01:09:37,249 --> 01:09:34,980
don't listen to the negative stuff I

1644
01:09:39,709 --> 01:09:37,259
don't allow it in my life I try to stay

1645
01:09:42,050 --> 01:09:39,719
as positive as I can and

1646
01:09:43,550 --> 01:09:42,060
and I believe good things are coming

1647
01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:43,560
for us all

1648
01:09:47,209 --> 01:09:45,120
I really do

1649
01:09:49,610 --> 01:09:47,219
well I would encourage folks to pack up

1650
01:09:51,890 --> 01:09:49,620
the book a UFO of God the extraordinary

1651
01:09:53,689 --> 01:09:51,900
true story of Chris Bledsoe available on

1652
01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:53,699
Amazon and other Publishers you can get

1653
01:09:59,630 --> 01:09:56,640
audiobook and you can get the paperback

1654
01:10:01,610 --> 01:09:59,640
or you can get it on Kindle as well and

1655
01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:01,620
very much like Chris has said Don't

1656
01:10:05,990 --> 01:10:03,840
listen to Chris or myself read the book

1657
01:10:07,970 --> 01:10:06,000
and make up your own mind as to what you

1658
01:10:10,250 --> 01:10:07,980
think of Chris's story and and the

1659
01:10:11,810 --> 01:10:10,260
phenomenon that's going on itself

1660
01:10:13,610 --> 01:10:11,820
um Chris you've been wonderful with your

1661
01:10:16,010 --> 01:10:13,620
time I've very much appreciated it thank

1662
01:10:20,090 --> 01:10:16,020
you very much uh thank you and one thing

1663
01:10:21,709 --> 01:10:20,100
I'd like to add is my website is UFO of

1664
01:10:23,810 --> 01:10:21,719
god.com

1665
01:10:26,810 --> 01:10:23,820
and on there there's a link to Amazon

1666
01:10:29,330 --> 01:10:26,820
where you can buy it but there is uh if

1667
01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:29,340
you want to reach out to my team or

1668
01:10:35,689 --> 01:10:32,880
myself there's a contact tab you can you

1669
01:10:40,010 --> 01:10:35,699
can send an email that way it's an email

1670
01:10:42,590 --> 01:10:40,020
tab it goes to myself and my manager

1671
01:10:45,649 --> 01:10:42,600
but there are a lot of testimonials on

1672
01:10:47,750 --> 01:10:45,659
there from college professors that been

1673
01:10:49,270 --> 01:10:47,760
here and witnessed it to

1674
01:10:52,850 --> 01:10:49,280
to

1675
01:10:55,490 --> 01:10:52,860
film uh people that film it with me and

1676
01:10:58,189 --> 01:10:55,500
others so it's pretty cool

1677
01:11:00,169 --> 01:10:58,199
and we'll be posting a lot more stuff on

1678
01:11:02,870 --> 01:11:00,179
that website as time goes on Maybe

1679
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,880
videos and so on so

1680
01:11:06,410 --> 01:11:04,560
it's really cool

1681
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:06,420
I'll make sure all of those links are

1682
01:11:09,709 --> 01:11:08,159
also in the description so you can click

1683
01:11:11,689 --> 01:11:09,719
on those or you can type them in if

1684
01:11:13,910 --> 01:11:11,699
you're not lazy like me so uh there you

1685
01:11:16,130 --> 01:11:13,920
go that is all for this week's show

1686
01:11:18,110 --> 01:11:16,140
thank you very much for listening please

1687
01:11:20,689 --> 01:11:18,120
remember to leave the podcast out of you

1688
01:11:23,209 --> 01:11:20,699
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1689
01:11:25,130 --> 01:11:23,219
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1690
01:11:27,229 --> 01:11:25,140
very much appreciated the shows are

1691
01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:27,239
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1692
01:11:31,310 --> 01:11:28,800
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1693
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:31,320
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1694
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:33,600
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1695
01:11:39,050 --> 01:11:36,000
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1696
01:11:42,649 --> 01:11:39,060
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1697
01:11:44,750 --> 01:11:42,659
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1698
01:11:47,070 --> 01:11:44,760
folks as always keep looking up you

1699
01:12:07,330 --> 01:11:47,080
never know what you might see

1700
01:12:47,890 --> 01:12:17,050
[Music]

1701
01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:57,020
they thought this was noise

1702
01:13:26,530 --> 01:13:02,580
[Music]

1703
01:13:26,540 --> 01:13:32,770
consider your space

1704
01:13:43,630 --> 01:13:41,149
[Music]

1705
01:14:05,750 --> 01:13:43,640
quite a disaster

1706
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:27,890
[Music]

1707
01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:53,650
thank you